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Jun 04, 2010 1:06 pm
Jun 04, 2010 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany
Polution? Are you freakin kidding me?
There's always room to exchange or improve an engine to a newer and more efficient one if there would be an interest by the lobby. But hell no, people who want to do this get f*cked by law or simply can't afford it[1]. It's cheaper to trash a whole car to buy.. err.. borrow ("lease") a brand new one. Does that sound like common sense? And for what?
FYI: Producing a new car consumes the energy a small family needs in _20_ years for living. That's what you wreck a whole car for. Plus most old cars just go down to africa or who knows where and "polute" over there. Next: Only very small cars consume less petrol. Here people seem to be in need of SUVs (or the ladder) latly just for shopping sometimes consuming twice the gas the old car needed for crap like up tp 40 car cpus for climate control, automated blinking, 20 driving assistants, gps-navigation and music computers and all the other crap that's simply not needed in a daily bring-me-to-work-or-shopping car.
New technology? Yeah, people drive like morons today because they can't "feel" the road any more in their asses and feel save and comfortable in their "plastic tanks". They have no clue that they are moving around 2 tons because computers take care of everything and the engine has enough power to speed up in such a short time. They think they have their car under control beeing good drives having best reactions and always knowing what to do always pushing the limits. This is however such a fatal common mistake. The moment gravity gets you from behind and the computer can't compensate (or mailfunction) any more you may realize. That's when it's to late however and there's only so much an airback can do.
[1] I've been driving on the road for years (part of the job) with plenty of different cars. I've seen many accidents. Had my own as well. Survived a lot. Especially during rush hours and on the weekends driving is like war in inner cities and on the highway. And like most germans I am crazy about cars as well but I tell you something: My own van goes since 1989 using massive steel technology to let the passengers survive a crash having only 850kg in weight consuming 11 liters of benzine beeing able to drive up to 140 km/h having a Kat and emission class Euro2. Fair enough for any daily use (in my case: shopping, work, hobbys, moving (relocating, I do this a lot), caravan on the weekends and for holiday travelling). I see no - absolutly no - reason to trash it just because it's old.
I'd like to exchange the engine for a less fuel consuming one being more friendly to my purse during refuel and as a side effect for less polution. But I can't. Know why? Any foreign engine would bring me back to Euro1 without approval of some certified company. By law it's not allowed to exchange the engine to a worse emission class than before. To get such an approval I'd have to spent about the same money like for a complete brand new van. I wonder what might cause a change of emissions from an engine by just putting it in another car including it's original electric and exhaust system. Probably nothing at all.
Now that's typical german: Trash, don't repair. Buy new, don't upgrade. And this you have *everywhere* from furniture over clothes over computers up to really expensive things like cars. I guess that's a typical western world obstacle and we represent this very well.
End of rant.
Polution? Are you freakin kidding me?
There's always room to exchange or improve an engine to a newer and more efficient one if there would be an interest by the lobby. But hell no, people who want to do this get f*cked by law or simply can't afford it[1]. It's cheaper to trash a whole car to buy.. err.. borrow ("lease") a brand new one. Does that sound like common sense? And for what?
FYI: Producing a new car consumes the energy a small family needs in _20_ years for living. That's what you wreck a whole car for. Plus most old cars just go down to africa or who knows where and "polute" over there. Next: Only very small cars consume less petrol. Here people seem to be in need of SUVs (or the ladder) latly just for shopping sometimes consuming twice the gas the old car needed for crap like up tp 40 car cpus for climate control, automated blinking, 20 driving assistants, gps-navigation and music computers and all the other crap that's simply not needed in a daily bring-me-to-work-or-shopping car.
New technology? Yeah, people drive like morons today because they can't "feel" the road any more in their asses and feel save and comfortable in their "plastic tanks". They have no clue that they are moving around 2 tons because computers take care of everything and the engine has enough power to speed up in such a short time. They think they have their car under control beeing good drives having best reactions and always knowing what to do always pushing the limits. This is however such a fatal common mistake. The moment gravity gets you from behind and the computer can't compensate (or mailfunction) any more you may realize. That's when it's to late however and there's only so much an airback can do.
[1] I've been driving on the road for years (part of the job) with plenty of different cars. I've seen many accidents. Had my own as well. Survived a lot. Especially during rush hours and on the weekends driving is like war in inner cities and on the highway. And like most germans I am crazy about cars as well but I tell you something: My own van goes since 1989 using massive steel technology to let the passengers survive a crash having only 850kg in weight consuming 11 liters of benzine beeing able to drive up to 140 km/h having a Kat and emission class Euro2. Fair enough for any daily use (in my case: shopping, work, hobbys, moving (relocating, I do this a lot), caravan on the weekends and for holiday travelling). I see no - absolutly no - reason to trash it just because it's old.
I'd like to exchange the engine for a less fuel consuming one being more friendly to my purse during refuel and as a side effect for less polution. But I can't. Know why? Any foreign engine would bring me back to Euro1 without approval of some certified company. By law it's not allowed to exchange the engine to a worse emission class than before. To get such an approval I'd have to spent about the same money like for a complete brand new van. I wonder what might cause a change of emissions from an engine by just putting it in another car including it's original electric and exhaust system. Probably nothing at all.
Now that's typical german: Trash, don't repair. Buy new, don't upgrade. And this you have *everywhere* from furniture over clothes over computers up to really expensive things like cars. I guess that's a typical western world obstacle and we represent this very well.
End of rant.
Bernd Kosmahl
"Sir, we are surrounded!" - "Great - we can attack in any direction."
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