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ThiagoLG	May 24, 2010 5:43 pm
Subject: Need a help about Germany Hi guys, i need a help for create a presentation for my english course at Brazil. My class was select to say about Germany. I need to describe the musicians at Germany, your culture, tips of food, cars, soccer, about technology and more. Send some links were i can find about or describe if is your country. Thanks a lot. Again, sorry for my english. I'm trying do my best to improve it. No google translator more heheh =D

ThiagoLG	May 29, 2010 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany No one ?

T-RED(Swe)	May 30, 2010 10:21 am
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany Wikipedia is your friend. Wikipedia about Germany

ThiagoLG	May 30, 2010 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany I know, but if you live in this country you can speak more about, that wikipedia can't do.

Sal	May 31, 2010 1:52 am
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany Well, let me give you my (short ) personal view. One think that got kinda big was a facebook clone, http://www.studivz.net/ It was originally aimed to be used by students, starting learning groups and such, but it soon became the biggest German social network ( with meinvz.net and schülerVZ.net ) You know, now that you asked - its really hard to think of something "usable". Everything I know is frozen deeply back in my mind, without me having access to it. Here are some of my personal experiences that might be true local only. I live in Nordrhein-Westfalen http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordrhein-Westfalen Fast Food. You can get pretty much everything you want, Dunkin Donuts, Mc Donald's, KFC, Burger King- its here. Even our small City has couple of Subways ( I dislike this place ) A funny fact about McDonald's though. Here in my region, Youngsters like to show off their cars at parking lots of McDonald's lol. You should see it yourself. Standing there with their tuned cars- I don't even know if they are buying food hehe. Its not happening at Burger King or KFC, so yeah. You are pretty connected in Nordrhein-Westfalen between the cities. Here are a lot of big cities or cities that want to look big.Cologne, Duesseldorf, Dortmund, Essen, Aachen- you can go everywhere with easy. The borders here are close too. France, the Netherlands, Belgium- all nearby. Oh and the "Euro" is great if you want to go for a daytrip to the countries mentioned above, cause there's no need to exchange your money into another currency. The big Airports are Airport Cologne and Duesseldorf, but sure some others aswell- but that are the ones that come into my mind right now ;D About parties and concerts It's the common deal, the bigger the city the bigger are the prizes for pretty much everything. For example, I can go party and get a drink for 3-4 Euros in my city. Duesseldorf can cost me the double for one drink, depending on how fancy the club/place is. You can have an entrance fee or a minimum value you have to spend in the club- sometimes you got both ;D Flatrate Parties/Binge drinking/all you can drink parties are common and popular. Another one on fastfood. Turkish food is polurar ( doner and other stuff ) Greek food too- Gyros, Tzatziki and so on. French Fries with the Currywurst are not only popular, they are loved http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currywurst I don't know much about soccer- So yeah.. ;D That's for now- You could give me more specific question. I enjoy to write down stuff that's so common for me. And I can practicing my English. ( tell me if you have trouble with understanding anything, just ask me pls ) bye

Sal

May 31, 2010 1:52 am

Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany

Well, let me give you my (short ) personal view.
One think that got kinda big was a facebook clone, http://www.studivz.net/
It was originally aimed to be used by students, starting learning groups and such, but it soon became the biggest German social network ( with meinvz.net and schülerVZ.net )

You know, now that you asked - its really hard to think of something "usable". Everything I know is frozen deeply back in my mind, without me having access to it.

Here are some of my personal experiences that might be true local only. I live in Nordrhein-Westfalen http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordrhein-Westfalen

Fast Food. You can get pretty much everything you want, Dunkin Donuts, Mc Donald's, KFC, Burger King- its here. Even our small City has couple of Subways ( I dislike this place )
A funny fact about McDonald's though. Here in my region, Youngsters like to show off their cars at parking lots of McDonald's lol. You should see it yourself. Standing there with their tuned cars- I don't even know if they are buying food hehe. Its not happening at Burger King or KFC, so yeah.

You are pretty connected in Nordrhein-Westfalen between the cities. Here are a lot of big cities or cities that want to look big.Cologne, Duesseldorf, Dortmund, Essen, Aachen- you can go everywhere with easy. The borders here are close too. France, the Netherlands, Belgium- all nearby. Oh and the "Euro" is great if you want to go for a daytrip to the countries mentioned above, cause there's no need to exchange your money into another currency.
The big Airports are Airport Cologne and Duesseldorf, but sure some others aswell- but that are the ones that come into my mind right now ;D

About parties and concerts
It's the common deal, the bigger the city the bigger are the prizes for pretty much everything. For example, I can go party and get a drink for 3-4 Euros in my city. Duesseldorf can cost me the double for one drink, depending on how fancy the club/place is. You can have an entrance fee or a minimum value you have to spend in the club- sometimes you got both ;D
Flatrate Parties/Binge drinking/all you can drink parties are common and popular.

Another one on fastfood.
Turkish food is polurar ( doner and other stuff )
Greek food too- Gyros, Tzatziki and so on.
French Fries with the Currywurst are not only popular, they are loved
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currywurst

I don't know much about soccer- So yeah.. ;D

That's for now-
You could give me more specific question. I enjoy to write down stuff that's so common for me. And I can practicing my English.
( tell me if you have trouble with understanding anything, just ask me pls )

bye

ThiagoLG	Jun 01, 2010 5:12 am
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany Thanks a lot Sal! More one, and about the technology in Germany what do you say about ?

beko	Jun 01, 2010 6:53 am
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany technology? can you go into details? it seems to be common that people spent 400 euro for a freakin cellphone or wreck their 5 years old car to get a new one because you had a chance to get 2000 euro (to push up economy) for doing so or trash their old television to get some plasma monster for only 1500 euro and people complain that we don't have money any more.

ThiagoLG	Jun 04, 2010 2:15 am
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany Well, about the 5 years car to get a new one i think this is good, in Brazil people with don't have money, uses a car for 20 years old or more. Imagine how this car pollute the air. And what do you say about technology in cars like automatic parking, somethink new, nanotechnology, guns and others? The most of family in Germany have a garden, or plant (cultive) something in your garden? Is this true ? I will describe the technology in Germany, i need know about the new or old.

fyzzo	Jun 04, 2010 10:18 am
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany My English isn't perfect but I try to drop a statement, too. About cars - I know many people who hate automatic gearbox, because we want "fun" when we are driving (especially men). I think there are not many countries with no global speed Limit at freeways. So you can drive the good German cars (Porsche etc.) the fast as you can on some freeways. I think our mechanical engineering technology is very good. Our machines for production etc. are globally popular. Also we export very many goods. 2003 - 2008 we were world export champion. 2009 it was China

beko	Jun 04, 2010 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany Polution? Are you freakin kidding me? There's always room to exchange or improve an engine to a newer and more efficient one if there would be an interest by the lobby. But hell no, people who want to do this get fcked by law or simply can't afford it[1]. It's cheaper to trash a whole car to buy.. err.. borrow ("lease") a brand new one. Does that sound like common sense? And for what? FYI: Producing a new car consumes the energy a small family needs in _20_ years for living. That's what you wreck a whole car for. Plus most old cars just go down to africa or who knows where and "polute" over there. Next: Only very small cars consume less petrol. Here people seem to be in need of SUVs (or the ladder) latly just for shopping sometimes consuming twice the gas the old car needed for crap like up tp 40 car cpus for climate control, automated blinking, 20 driving assistants, gps-navigation and music computers and all the other crap that's simply not needed in a daily bring-me-to-work-or-shopping car. New technology? Yeah, people drive like morons today because they can't "feel" the road any more in their asses and feel save and comfortable in their "plastic tanks". They have no clue that they are moving around 2 tons because computers take care of everything and the engine has enough power to speed up in such a short time. They think they have their car under control beeing good drives having best reactions and always knowing what to do always pushing the limits. This is however such a fatal common mistake. The moment gravity gets you from behind and the computer can't compensate (or mailfunction) any more you may realize. That's when it's to late however and there's only so much an airback can do. [1] I've been driving on the road for years (part of the job) with plenty of different cars. I've seen many accidents. Had my own as well. Survived a lot. Especially during rush hours and on the weekends driving is like war in inner cities and on the highway. And like most germans I am crazy about cars as well but I tell you something: My own van goes since 1989 using massive steel technology to let the passengers survive a crash having only 850kg in weight consuming 11 liters of benzine beeing able to drive up to 140 km/h having a Kat and emission class Euro2. Fair enough for any daily use (in my case: shopping, work, hobbys, moving (relocating, I do this a lot), caravan on the weekends and for holiday travelling). I see no - absolutly no - reason to trash it just because it's old. I'd like to exchange the engine for a less fuel consuming one being more friendly to my purse during refuel and as a side effect for less polution. But I can't. Know why? Any foreign engine would bring me back to Euro1 without approval of some certified company. By law it's not allowed to exchange the engine to a worse emission class than before. To get such an approval I'd have to spent about the same money like for a complete brand new van. I wonder what might cause a change of emissions from an engine by just putting it in another car including it's original electric and exhaust system. Probably nothing at all. Now that's typical german: Trash, don't repair. Buy new, don't upgrade. And this you have everywhere* from furniture over clothes over computers up to really expensive things like cars. I guess that's a typical western world obstacle and we represent this very well. End of rant.

beko

Jun 04, 2010 1:06 pm

Subject: Re: Need a help about Germany

Polution? Are you freakin kidding me?

There's always room to exchange or improve an engine to a newer and more efficient one if there would be an interest by the lobby. But hell no, people who want to do this get f*cked by law or simply can't afford it[1]. It's cheaper to trash a whole car to buy.. err.. borrow ("lease") a brand new one. Does that sound like common sense? And for what?

FYI: Producing a new car consumes the energy a small family needs in _20_ years for living. That's what you wreck a whole car for. Plus most old cars just go down to africa or who knows where and "polute" over there. Next: Only very small cars consume less petrol. Here people seem to be in need of SUVs (or the ladder) latly just for shopping sometimes consuming twice the gas the old car needed for crap like up tp 40 car cpus for climate control, automated blinking, 20 driving assistants, gps-navigation and music computers and all the other crap that's simply not needed in a daily bring-me-to-work-or-shopping car.

New technology? Yeah, people drive like morons today because they can't "feel" the road any more in their asses and feel save and comfortable in their "plastic tanks". They have no clue that they are moving around 2 tons because computers take care of everything and the engine has enough power to speed up in such a short time. They think they have their car under control beeing good drives having best reactions and always knowing what to do always pushing the limits. This is however such a fatal common mistake. The moment gravity gets you from behind and the computer can't compensate (or mailfunction) any more you may realize. That's when it's to late however and there's only so much an airback can do.

[1] I've been driving on the road for years (part of the job) with plenty of different cars. I've seen many accidents. Had my own as well. Survived a lot. Especially during rush hours and on the weekends driving is like war in inner cities and on the highway. And like most germans I am crazy about cars as well but I tell you something: My own van goes since 1989 using massive steel technology to let the passengers survive a crash having only 850kg in weight consuming 11 liters of benzine beeing able to drive up to 140 km/h having a Kat and emission class Euro2. Fair enough for any daily use (in my case: shopping, work, hobbys, moving (relocating, I do this a lot), caravan on the weekends and for holiday travelling). I see no - absolutly no - reason to trash it just because it's old.

I'd like to exchange the engine for a less fuel consuming one being more friendly to my purse during refuel and as a side effect for less polution. But I can't. Know why? Any foreign engine would bring me back to Euro1 without approval of some certified company. By law it's not allowed to exchange the engine to a worse emission class than before. To get such an approval I'd have to spent about the same money like for a complete brand new van. I wonder what might cause a change of emissions from an engine by just putting it in another car including it's original electric and exhaust system. Probably nothing at all.

Now that's typical german: Trash, don't repair. Buy new, don't upgrade. And this you have *everywhere* from furniture over clothes over computers up to really expensive things like cars. I guess that's a typical western world obstacle and we represent this very well.

End of rant.