Mechanized Assault & eXploration Reloaded

Subject: Units unbalanced?

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After some games played vs. Stellar we find out that sometimes the game seems to be unbalanced and various kind of units are never used because they are to weak or there is another unit that is overpowered.

Depending on this fact we try to change some units default values for better balancing on this Piratenpad we try to wrote some more information about why we change some special values. Thx to Stellar for the basic changes.

You think you have another good idea why some unit should be modded? Visit the maxR IRC and talk with us or just leave a reply here



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Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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Piratenpad ? - Das will mir nach esoterischer Kollaborativ-Schwarzmagie erscheinen.

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Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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This is rather interesting, some kind of mod support for maxr would be a good option for this kind of things.

I haven't played enough max/r multiplayer matches as of yet to judge this kind of things. I can tell you that I am not a big fan of differences to the original. Mods could help multiplayer games to become more balanced. Also for me the turn time balances a lot of the matches.

Anyway, I like this approach and believe that mods for maxr might attract some users too! =)

keep it up non

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Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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Hi Sal,
You just got an "I like".

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Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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First mod-pack is rdy for testing

NOTE:

1. no balanced clan support atm (just some drafts)
2. no balancing for sea units (best stuff at the moment is to play on land maps )
3. no apc available atm
4. new unit heav-air-transport (for heavy units )
5. all other stuff can be read in the included changelog.html

Additional hint: I'll add all new version to the first post…

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Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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It happened. maxr got mod. maxmod

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Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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improved sub marines? wot? increase the cost then.

edit: ah wait only for the clan. I'm stupid.
edit: please add some reasons for all the changes. e.g. I don't see why a Avac should have more Scan.
edit: way more documentation please. I dont uderstand the changes of the missile launcher. It says 18 Attack but in the Text you talk about 24.

But good Job I guess. Its cool if you want to try something else

Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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hm okay I'll try it
Short: We try to give every unit an individual and important role in this game.

After many games with Missile Crawlers + Mobile Anti-Air + Airtransport… the game itself turned into something boring. Even if you build as much as possible defense you can't win (…therefore we have a save if you can't believe it…) because mobile units can forced to 'one' point while you have to build everywhere defense only way to win was to use a clan with better missile units and hope for the best.

So major part for us is,

• balance the units
• find new ways to do this (e.q heavy air transport (slower and expensive to build - you need it ATM to carry around your tanks and constructors) <ironie> flying apc's are awesome</ironie>
• maybe therefore some new feat. like being allowed to carry around 1 or 2 humans in tanks

AWACS are high in the sky and have a lower scan range as a cheap-mobile-ground-scanner? Strange - right? We thought this seems to be 'illogically'. Therefore AWACS now are weaker while fighters are faster, so you have to protect your AWACS else you'll lose it sooner as you thought. This was an additionally reason for us to make AWACS slower. Now you can't fly to enemy base and escape if he detected you - you need some units to protect your AWACS and some more strategic and tactic to win - not only an 'all in an I'll win'.
Another idea behind this change was, to make it more difficult to play just with scanner + missile crawler… you wanna have good scan ⇒ build AWACS (+defence for it)

right we talked about this… but meanwhile we think about three individual unit groups (for land AND see {⇒ maybe a new ship type too…])

• missile: high range; low attack; very weak (you should protect this units anyway)
• mixed: mid range; mid attack; 'normal' health
• tank: low range; big attack; heavy armor and hp

Furthermore we think, defense building should be cheaper and have only slightly advantages. BUT: ALL DRAFTS
…we need testplayerz

THX and keep in mind to read the Piradenpad too!
Let's hope this ends in a good balanced and playable mod ^^

All new ideas are on the pad (and some bugs/feat like 22hp for units (a value not listed in upgrade table — just realized this during the last testgame))

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Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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new mod-pack version available (as I said in the first post)

it is strongly recommended to read the included html files

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Subject: Re: Units unbalanced?

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so… first 3player testgame started… but now we need a break.

All in all… no one really knows which unit he should built at first - and how many… anyways you need every unit

thx Stellar and Eiko for this game… hope we can continue soon

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